The Blind Watchmaker: Why the Evidence of Evolution Reveals a Universe Without Design

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Richard Dawkins is not a shy man. Edward Larson's research shows that most scientists today are not formally religious, but Dawkins is an in-your-face atheist in the witty British style:


I want to persuade the reader, not just that the Darwinian world-view happens to be true, but that it is the only

http://rapidshare.de/files/16153882/The_Blind_Watchmaker.rar ID23063 23063 worried 23 Mar 2006 07:29 thanks very much, can't read enough about the evolution idea... ID:155555 155555 fdikbas 23 Mar 2006 11:49 First he has to prove that God does not exist and a new creation of evolution either randomly or hand made (scientifically)... Thanks anyway, i wonder what atheists will say when they face God the magnificient. ID:155618 155618 fdikbas 23 Mar 2006 12:33 How can you believe that the atoms without brain and unaware of where they are or what they are doing can create a super creature like yourself. Though you are and everything in universe is composed of those unaware atoms. ID:155640 155640 sjc001 23 Mar 2006 14:45 Myth: Evolution is about the origin of life. No it isn't. It is about the origin of species. Abiogenesis is about the origin of life. Evolution also doesn't exclude god either. "I see no good reasons why the views given in this volume should shock the religious sensibilities of anyone." -- Charles Darwin, The Origin Of Species, 1869. Creationists have a twisted and wrong idea what evolution is. ID:155694 155694 Dr_Faustus 23 Mar 2006 14:55 fdikbas: you are a believer. Science is not believing, but assuming proven facts. To believe is a personal option, but science is not a personal matter. It's not a chance "to believe or not to believe". The chance is "to demostrate or not to demostrate". Let's begin... ID:155699 155699 zigzig 23 Mar 2006 15:40 Beware, here comes the Harun Yahya book storm :)))))) ID:155711 155711 fdikbas 23 Mar 2006 16:06 Dr_Faustus Is there any minor demonstration of evolution made by scientists? You say science is assuming proven facts. As far as i know there is no proof of evolution made by scientists yet. No, evolution is not proven and "science is the way of learning the rules of the universe". And i know that science will never prove that god exists and science will also never prove that he does not exist. This a question of meaning of life. You are rigt that it is not a chance to believe or not. It is only about prefer. sjc001 Evolution excludes god's existence. Show me any evidence that god says he created man from monkey. No in fact he says that he created man and he created species. Another question to evoutionists: Why did only some of the monkeys prefer to become human, why don't they now transform to man? Wasn't it better for all of them to become man? ID:155721 155721 Brother No 1 23 Mar 2006 16:58 Why did only some of the monkeys prefer to become human, why don't they now transform to man? Wasn't it better for all of them to become man? Sigh... this statement alone says you have not actually read and understood the ideas behind Darwin and contemporary science. Evolution is not about choice. ID:155738 155738 sjc001 23 Mar 2006 17:21 "Evolution excludes god's existence. Show me any evidence that god says he created man from monkey. No in fact he says that he created man and he created species." Another creationist myth about evolution. Evolution doesn't say that we come from monkeys at all. We share a common ancestor with the other primates. There is so much evidence in favor of evolution that the Catholic Church has declared that it is a fact of nature. Read and learn: http://www.uwgb.edu/dutchs/PSEUDOSC/Top10MythsEvol.HTM http://sps.k12.ar.us/massengale/evolution_myths.htm ID:155745 155745 sjc001 23 Mar 2006 17:26 BTW, science is not concerned at all about the supernatural, only about what actually exists in nature. Asking it to prove or disprove the existence of god is like trying to do the same of the Easter Bunny. ID:155748 155748 sjc001 23 Mar 2006 17:28 P.S. The Catholic Church has also declaed that we're created in god's spiritual image and not his physical image. ID:155752 155752 fdikbas 23 Mar 2006 17:48 If the Catholic Church had declared that this is a fact of nature then this is against what God says. God says that the first man is Adam and that he came on earth from heaven and this means that the creatures on earth don't have any family relations with him. I don't care if the popes in the Catholic Church believe that Adam was created on earth naturally. I believe God's words and you don't have any clue that he is wrong. But at the sime time i don't have any clue about how Adam was sent on earth. This is only a problem of belief as stated above. Nobody will be able to prove reality. People will make their choices. Believing God's words or not. ID:155768 155768 fdikbas 23 Mar 2006 18:03 And Science is of course concerned about supernatural. Religion is a branch of science and there are many professors working in those departments about religion and other related materials. ID:155773 155773 sjc001 23 Mar 2006 19:09 fdikbas, you don't have one clue about any of this. You're the perfect creationist. Religion and science are two completely different things. Science is a not a belief. It is a method. BTW, the bible says nothing about Adam coming from heaven. It says that he was created from the Earth (Dust) and god breathed life into him. Even us non-believers know that about the myth. You don't even know your own bible. I bet that you don't even know the name of Adam's first wife before the story was cleaned up by the Christians. I offer you evidence and all you have is blind faith. ID:155796 155796 sjc001 23 Mar 2006 19:23 From my extensive experience in this every creationist that I have ever talked with has been totally intellectually dishonest. There were no exceptions. That includes you, fdikbas. ID:155804 155804 mnopq 23 Mar 2006 21:28 Hi fdikbas, You kept on saying God says this and God says that. Where and when did he say anything? All that are on the Bible are nothing more than hearsays written by mere mortals. And if you believe what was written as God-spell, then so be it, but please don't spread the propaganda. ID:155873 155873 Dr_Faustus 23 Mar 2006 21:53 It's a nonsense t

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